http://imaginethehappy.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] imaginethehappy.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] spnstoryfinders2010-09-28 06:50 pm

LF Secret Favorites

Sooooooooo I recently found some Fic *shifty eyes* that I was surprised I liked so much *koff*. And these are not fics that my LJ nearest and dearest would be like "OH! I wanna read that, too!" And that's what I'm looking for: Those fics that you found, followed a delicious list, or read/made some anon prompt over at [livejournal.com profile] spnkink_meme.

and clearly anonymous commenting is on so, we can all most of us *ahem* can keep our secret favorites our secret favorites.

Thanks!

ETA: Just to clarify, these are not happy shiny fics.
If you do not appreciate the subject matter, you don't really have to tell me. The post was approved by the MODs and I think the tags speak for themselves. I'm not saying I condone any of the subject matter but that's the point. If I can't search for fic in a Fic Finding Comm, by all means, re-direct me.

[identity profile] sickle-weasel.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not trying to 'spoil anyone's fun', but what's with all the highly disturbing content that's being posted here recently? Mods, to be honest, I'd really rather not see all this, and I'm sure other people feel the same! You realise this is exactly how journals get deleted and purged? I don't want to lose this comm just because some people enjoy horrific kink.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-29 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
If you'd "rather not see all this", then unsub from the comm. It isn't the 'find stories sickle_weasel finds acceptable' comm.

[identity profile] sickle-weasel.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I'm aware of the fact that I can unsub. I'm also brave enough to voice a complaint without being anonymous. All I'm saying is, SOME of the subjects being searched for are potentially triggering, and illegal. It's not only the fact that I find them upsetting; like I said before, this is how journals get destroyed. There's no need to get sarcastic about it, it's a valid concern.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-29 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
No-one's posting any fics directly to this community, just links to fics elsewhere. If you have a problem with their content, I suggest taking it up with the places where the fics are hosted, rather than with this community which isn't violating any of LJ's ToS and so isn't in danger of getting deleted.

No-one forced you to read any of the comments here or to click on the fics and read them, so I suggest you get off your high horse and stop complaining about things that you have no right or ability to change.

[identity profile] sickle-weasel.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
...How exactly is being concerned that people appear to be getting a kick out of child abuse a high horse?

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-29 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
All I'm saying is, SOME of the subjects being searched for are potentially triggering, and illegal.

You are aware that this is fiction, right?

Please, thoughtpolice, save us all from unpleasant thoughts. Doubleplusungood.

[identity profile] sickle-weasel.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Please don't hide behind sarcasm and an anonymous tag. I can understand where you're coming from, but there's no need for that.
Like I keep saying (and I do wish people would actually READ what I'm writing rather than quoting obliquely), I'm not trying to say people can't have their own opinion on disturbing subjects, I just didn't really expect to see it. Agh, I'm not explaining myself very well. I imagine we'll all have to agree to disagree.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-29 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
While I think that if you are disturbed by it, you can always not-read the request, I also agree with you on the highly disturbed ideas some call 'kink'. I admit I read some of those, and I can't even say why exactly, because I usually feel so bad that I need a shower afterwards. what disturbs me most is the sentence "and he's enjoying it!", indicating that well, of course, if a minor enjoys that, it's ok.

There is kink and then there is rape. Calling it non-con or dub-con doesn't make it any less wrong, bad or illegal. Not even starting about underage-rape!

And to the anon: I really, really don't think the 'disturbing' sickle had in mind is written by anyone who was traumatized. There are different fics that might have been, and are disturbing, but you'd certainly be able to see the difference between those and what some might call 'kink'.
And I kinda think that that's not what she meant (could be wrong about it, though)

(Anonymous) 2010-09-29 02:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're missing the key difference between fact and fiction. No-one's condoning or promoting rape or child abuse irl but this is fiction and people should be free to explore what they want as long as they warn appropriately so as not to hurt or trigger anyone else. No-one is making you read these things so if they're so upsetting to you, I suggest you stay away and heed the warnings in future, since you have no right to tell people that they should only write things that you approve of.

I really, really don't think the 'disturbing' sickle had in mind is written by anyone who was traumatized. There are different fics that might have been, and are disturbing, but you'd certainly be able to see the difference between those and what some might call 'kink'.
You have no idea what you're talking about and it's pretty offensive for you to assume that you know people's histories and issues from one piece of writing. If it's not to your taste, don't read it, but don't presume that all the people who write these fics are approaching it in the same way or have the same reasons for writing.

[identity profile] sickle-weasel.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly didn't mean to cause a huge argument, but you must understand, I'm NOT telling anyone they should 'only write' what I approve of. I'm just saying, yes, it is triggering, and I don't really want to see it in a general comm (but really, that's my selfish issue, and I shouldn't have over-reacted, but there's been loads lately!).
The above commenter wasn't assuming that s/he knew what people in that situation might think. S/he was saying that it wasn't likely that anyone who enjoyed the subject as a 'kink' is likely to have been traumatized by it, because then they wouldn't enjoy it (I'm not making a lot of sense, I'm sorry).
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[identity profile] scarletfbl.livejournal.com 2010-10-01 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Agree, 100%.

[identity profile] sickle-weasel.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You're correct on all counts. My problem is, I see these things and I panic. I shouldn't have over-reacted; it seems to have stepped on a lot of toes!

[identity profile] sickle-weasel.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry to over-react, I didn't mean to upset anyone. Honestly, the only subject that upsets me is child-abuse, but that's my issue. Thank you for putting up a warning, and I didn't actually think about the MODs approving it. My problem is, I do find the subject triggering - it makes me panicky. But you're totally right, I don't have to read it. There just seems to have been an abundance in the comm lately!
Thank you for arguing your point in such a mature manner, and I'm sorry if I stepped on any toes!

[identity profile] vodou-blue.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Really?! Really?! You know, that does sound like trying to spoil other people’s fun, to me.

Don’t listen to squicker, sweetie. Everybody knows (or should) that fanfic all takes place in Pretend Land, not RL, and giving us Content Warnings is what tags are for.

*headshake* I’m not sure why some people feel the need to be the Everyone Must Only Enjoy My Interests police, but ignore them. Not everything you asked for is an interest of mine, so I only addressed the stuff you and I both like. Why is that so hard for some people to do?

At any rate, you’re fine, don’t listen to the ickle squicker, and I hope you enjoy at least several of the many fics people told you about in response to your search. *g*

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(Anonymous) 2010-09-29 01:14 pm (UTC)(link)
If you don't want to read it, don't click on it.

No one forced you to read this entry.

No one should have to censor their fun (as long as they aren't hurting anyone), no matter what it is, just because someone else gets squicked out.

Go find a nice community when you can click the 'schmoop' and leave us alone.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-29 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
*click the 'schmoop' tag.

[identity profile] sickle-weasel.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I did have a whole counter-argument planned, but then I wondered, what's the point? Clearly I'm not allowed to express an opinion, lest I spoil someone's 'fun'. Sorry, carry on.

(Anonymous) 2010-09-29 03:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Obviously some people are not disturbed by things that disturb you. Welcome to the human race.

[identity profile] sickle-weasel.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right, but that's not the point. What I was concerned about was the negative effect such searches would have on the comm. However, I do concede your point. Just because I find such subjects triggering, it doesn't mean other people have to. Stop hiding behind an anonymous tag, because really, if you have to do that, it doesn't help your argument.

[identity profile] dirtydancer14.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
While I understand and can sympathize with your concerns/feelings of offense I think that the important thing to remember is that this type of comm is like a library. When someone goes into a library the have the choice to read works by the Marquis de Sade or the Story of O etc or they can choose to bypass them. Whether each individual chooses to read them, however does not mean that the library will throw those books out because there are others who will choose to read them for a variety of reasons understanding that a work of fiction is not the same thing as real life and that what they may choose to read or enjoy in fantasy does not mean that they would accept those behaviours in real life. Rape fantasies etc are just that, fantasies.

[identity profile] sickle-weasel.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for understanding. The subject being discussed is a bit of a sore point for me, and I'll fully admit to over-reacting. You make a very valid point!

(Anonymous) 2010-09-30 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I get what you're saying. Some of the works that have been produced since the kink memes started up really disturb me. I know we don't have to read it, but I still think it's taking it a bit far for any part of fandom to be about reading kink fic with prepubescent children

The kink memes are getting more and more out there as people forget to put any limits on themselves. There's a difference between getting off on a rape fantasy fic even, and treating child abuse as kink fic to get off on. And I'll admit I have read some of those fics, but I backed away because I don't think it's a healthy mindset to keep reading that stuff and requesting more and more of it to be written

No offense to the OP as I know that wasn't what you were asking for, your comment just made me want to say something about those kink memes