1  We all know John wasn't perfect no matter which end you're on.  Are there any stories where John is watching his grandkid, and does something Dean or Sam doesn't approve of.  Like he spanks one of them when Dean or Sam doesn't use corporal punishment or even just says something stupid.
I just want a scene where Dean or Sam (or both)  chew John out and explain that they are definitely not raising their kids the way John raised them.
2.  Anything with Bobby or Ellen being like a grandparent to Sam and Dean's kids

Any help would be appreciated.