03 March 2015 @ 12:45 pm
Sam/Dean, J2: Plot-without-(so much)-porn - ??  
Not sure how well I can describe what I'm looking for. You read many, many fanfics, S/D and J2, full of sex: first times, angry sex, makeup sex, etc. Pages and pages of blow-by-blow (pun intended), graphically detailed sex. Every plot point is followed by an extended sex scene. Sometimes I find myself just leafing thru the sex scenes, trying to pick up the plot again.

I'm not opposed to S/D and J2 sexytimes. The sexual tension and expression add depth to the boys' relationship. And I'm not saying sex scenes aren't well-written. But many of them go on too long/too frequently, and they're often too detailed for me to maintain focus on the characterization and the plot. (I don't need to follow the track of EVERY bead of sweat down Sam's back or Dean's abs. . .) So often, the sex scenes do not define the characters more closely -or- advance the plot (kind of like the songs in an old-school Broadway musical, pre-Oklahoma; the play goes on for a while and then - everyone stops and sings a song! Because hey, it's a musical!).

OK, now I'm babbling. Sorry. This is what I'm looking for: Recs for well-written S/D or J2 where the sex reveals something important about the characters or advances the story in some way. Maybe the sex is UST, or implied, or plays out through some metaphor.

I just need a break from all the detail that often doesn't seem to lead anywhere, or provide a new perspective . I'm sure I'll return to them at some point. :-P

Any help is much appreciated. I hope this makes sense.
 
 
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[identity profile] ayane42.livejournal.com on March 3rd, 2015 09:01 pm (UTC)
this is the first one that comes to mind:

http://makeit-takeit.livejournal.com/7249.html Screw You, We're from Texas

Summary: Everyone knows the story - Jensen had plans to enroll at Texas Tech and become a Physical Therapist, Jared was heading for the University of Texas to become an Engineer. Instead, they both got against-all-odds breaks in Hollywood and ended up on a totally different path. This is the story of what could have happened if fate twisted differently, if they never got those big Hollywood breaks, and instead ended up living the lives they grew up expecting to lead.

This is an incredible story, more about their growing love for each other. The sex scenes are not descriptive, but you know when they happen :)
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 07:34 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for the rec. This story keeps popping up on my radar lately, for some odd reason - and now it seems to be exactly what I'm looking for. I do so love serendipity.
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 07:36 pm (UTC)
Aaaannnnddd - does anyone have a PDF of this? the link on the author's page is outdated. please and thank you
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[identity profile] marlowe78.livejournal.com on March 3rd, 2015 09:31 pm (UTC)
Ha - I love you for this request. I think I don't have the right recs for you, sadly, but I'll happily follow this to snag yours ;-)

I have a few fics where no sex at all is happening, and I'm quite sure the "disclaimer verse" might fit into your likings.

So, check it out. Disclaimer-verse (http://raeschae.livejournal.com/7253.html)

If you're interested in no-sex, give me a headsup (or just check on my journal)
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 07:47 pm (UTC)
OK, just opened the first part of the DISCLAIMER series - gotta say, any story that begins with art where the boys are all inked up completely hypnotizes me! Looking forward with wild anticipation to reading this, and will certainly let you know any response, questions, etc. (I don't suppose there's a PDF of this 'verse?)

On a different note: I don't mean to dwell on the sex in the stories (believe me). But I do agree with the person in this fandom who once observed that, Take away the supernatural aspect and the familial relationship, and what you're left with is an epic love story. Which can certainly be expressed without sex. And is certainly ruined with an unrelenting emphasis on sex. So it's a fine line to maintain.

Can't say that I've read too many Gen stories. And the ones I have read (which were highly recommended) were good, very well-written - but there was a resonance and nuance missing for me, that the sexual/romantic relationship provides. As I indicated before, though, a little bit can go a long way.
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[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 6th, 2015 04:49 pm (UTC)
Started on your DISCLAIMER 'verse - enjoying it very much. Also starting to make a PDF of it, unless you already have one you would be willing to share. . . .? :-)
[identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com on March 3rd, 2015 09:42 pm (UTC)
You realize there is a whole lot of good interesting fic with no sex at all, or ith just a tiny bit, right?
Anyway, sex with meaning - if you don't know these, try [livejournal.com profile] fleshflutter's Courtship, [livejournal.com profile] astolat's Worth the Wait, [livejournal.com profile] balder12's Mystery Dance, [livejournal.com profile] philalethia's Coast On through and A Matter of trust. They're all so well written .
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 07:54 pm (UTC)
Why, thank you, yes I do realize that there is interesting fic with little or no sex - see my response to marlowe78, above. But it's the sex/romance that adds the nuance to the boys' love story, at least for me. Gen stories - and I've read a good many, highly recommended - are enjoyable, but they pretty much leave me where they found me. They aren't stories that I return to read again and again. Perhaps that indicates a certain shallowness or lack of dimension on my part? . . .

Thank you for the recs! I think the only ones I've read are philalethia's COAST ON THROUGH and, of course, fleshflutter's INCESTUOUS COURTSHIP OF THE ANTICHRIST'S BRIDE, which is in my top 10 list. So the others will be new and exciting. Thanks again!
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[identity profile] citrusjava.livejournal.com on March 3rd, 2015 09:48 pm (UTC)
And [livejournal.com profile] ash_carpenter's Anti Kink Verse: Non-Con is an utterly unique, hilarious and twisted little work of beauty. I f you like that sort of thing.
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 07:55 pm (UTC)
"Unique, hilarious, and twisted little work of beauty" - it's like you know me! Again, thanks for the rec.
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(Anonymous) on March 3rd, 2015 10:37 pm (UTC)
Definitely anything by Dimpleforyourthoughts! Her stories are never too porny and while she does usually include some sex scenes, they almost always advance the plot.
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 07:58 pm (UTC)
Literally JUST finished re-reading LIKE THE BACK OF MY HAND by dimpleforyourthoughts, which is what prompted me to submit this request! You're right - the sex is excellent without being too porny, and it doesn't force the boys' thoughts and reactions (or the plot) to take a back seat.
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[identity profile] crucis01.livejournal.com on March 3rd, 2015 11:44 pm (UTC)
Please define well written as it may vary from person to person. Thank you.
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 08:05 pm (UTC)
You are absolutely right: 'well-written' can (and does) vary from person to person. In this instance, as stated in my request, I'm looking for S/D or J2 fanfic where the sex/romantic scenes are integral to the story - either the scene shows me something more about the characters, or it advances the plot of the story in some way. (Preferably without swamping the boat, so to speak.)

Any writer who is gifted enough to make the sex work for the story - instead of being a stand-alone event, a tangent, or an interruption of what's been built with the reader thus far - almost always deserves the praise for a "well-written" story.
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[identity profile] ex1led-nyer.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 12:07 am (UTC)
I'd rec just about anything by runedgirl, esp. the longer works. She writes beautifully and has great plots, and the sex scenes are hot but usually happen towards the end and with some motivation. You might try The Outlaw Dean Winchester (http://runedgirl.livejournal.com/50019.html) or 143 Alice Grimm Lane (http://runedgirl.livejournal.com/56269.html).
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 08:08 pm (UTC)
Oh, of course, runedgirl! Her work is a Given in my pantheon, so fantastic - but you're right to point out that her use of sex has motivation and is particularly well-placed within the story. For me, she has never violated the compact between writer and reader, to create a believable story/situation which rings true as a bell.
[identity profile] ayane42.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 03:47 pm (UTC)
http://archiveofourown.org/series/26846 < Dawnbringer 'verse

The story follows Jensen and Jared, both werecats and both dealing with loss but coming from two very different situations. The fic explore their relationship as well as the world of the 'ailure,' a race of creatures capable of changing their shape from cat to human. The series is now complete.

excellent writing, more plot, amazing plot!! over 300k words. i re-read it frequently.
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 08:10 pm (UTC)
OK, thank you - I've been warily circling around this fic for a little while now (werebeasts not usually my thing), but based on your recommendation, I will give it a shot!
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[identity profile] casey679.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 05:59 pm (UTC)
I highly recommend any of these:
* One Kiss at a Time (http://archiveofourown.org/series/152768): Jensen, Jared's newest employee at Jay's Pad, has had a hard decade. Recently released from a rehab facility, Jensen's living at a shelter and just needs some help getting his life back on track, and Jared vows to be the one to do just that. Jensen is also an amazing guy and Jared finds himself falling hard after just a week, and he's delighted to find out that Jensen feels the same way. But Jensen still has demons he's fighting and secrets he's keeping and Jared knows that a relationship is the last thing Jensen needs right now. But his heart isn't listening, and when Jared's involved in a stomach churning ordeal, it brings up things from Jensen's past that are revealed to be the causes of all his problems. And Jared doesn't know if he can fix them all.

* Beholder (http://archiveofourown.org/series/37119): Seeing is not the same as believing. Jared was passionate about the work he did with the animal shelter. Between that and living with Sandy, life was satisfactory. Until the cold night that the filthy, homeless man hidden in an oversized hoodie was dumped at the shelter and Jared couldn't just turn him out. Even if the man roared and called himself 'Beast.' Because under the hood, Jared was sure he caught a glimpse of a prince in those green eyes.

* The Food Network Presents... (http://archiveofourown.org/series/45886) verse: Jared Padalecki is a Food Network Chef. Jensen is a very famous recluse. He was a child star, a pop star, an Oscar nominee, a world renowned pianist and a single father. Jensen knows he's done with relationships but his six-year-old son, Jamie, loves the Food Network. He has debilitating food allergies and Jared is his favorite star in the world. Jensen loves his boy, so he lets Jared meet him. The rest is history.

* I'd Rather Fight With You... (http://archiveofourown.org/series/58773): Things get off to a rocky start between Jensen and the newest counselor at summer camp, Jared, and they only go downhill from there. But underneath all the anger is a desperate attraction that Jensen has no idea on how to handle - even though he's considered himself theoretically bi up to this point. The hard part will be finding a way to say two civil words to each other without fighting.

* Life On Land (http://archiveofourown.org/works/1173864): Sam Winchester is a successful lawyer in California. He no longer has a family -- the hunting lifestyle killed them off. Except... on the very weekend he planned to finally spread his brother’s ashes and let Dean go, he finds his brother in the strangest of places.

* Kings of the Night (http://archiveofourown.org/works/1029836): There was a man at the front, spearheading the little arrows-head formation that they’d fallen into; his hair was dark, shot through with the faintest glint of silver, and his eyes were dark and cold. Behind him, two younger boys stood shoulder to shoulder. There was something in the clench of their jaw, the similar way that they stood, that alerted her to the fact that they were probably the stranger’s sons; the shorter one was grinning cockily, mischievous grin and green eyes that just seemed to radiate trouble. His brother was taller by an inch at most, and his eyes were sweeping steadily over the room; when they locked with hers she was surprised by the intensity there, and the almost hypnotic way that they seemed to shift color in the dim light. They would have been beautiful as individuals. Together they were just as much intimidating as they were striking. “Holy shit,” Someone breathed. "They're the goddamned Winchesters."

And finally, if you don't mind Sam and Dean hooking up with other people besides themselves as WELL as hooking up with each other (so much angst), I absolutely adore Jassy's Regrets trilogy (http://samdean.archive.nu/series.php?seriesid=95). It's an AU where Sam goes back in time to save Dean from his deal, and everything changes. Lots of angst and Sam-whumpage, but he's also a complete BAMF in this. If you like your S/D pure, it's probably not for you.
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 08:13 pm (UTC)
RE: I highly recommend any of these:
Thank you so much for the recs. BEHOLDER is one of my absolute favorites, so I will put faith in your other recommendations, as well, and look forward to reading them.

I can tolerate S/D hooking up with others - I do love the show, after all - as long as they wind up with each other. (Again, per the show. Sad, but so right.) So I will check out the Regrets trilogy, as well.

You have really helped me with this list. Thank you again.
[identity profile] zanoranna.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 08:41 pm (UTC)
Have you ever heard of rei-c? Her fic L'Oiseau de feu might hit your requirements.

http://rei-c.livejournal.com/807970.html

[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 4th, 2015 09:20 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for this rec. I have read rei_c's FUNDAMENTAL IMAGE 'verse (in awe of her absolute knowledge and command of her subject), but not this one. *curtsies, with gratitude*
[identity profile] kaligrrrl.livejournal.com on March 5th, 2015 07:30 am (UTC)
One of my absolute favorite writers in this fandom is felisblanco (http://archiveofourown.org/users/felisblanco/pseuds/felisblanco). I'd recommend anything by her but you could certainly start with the epic "Doors of Time" series, a fandom classic.
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 6th, 2015 05:10 pm (UTC)
Yes. Yes. Yes. THE DOORS OF TIME would be one of the "Five SPN Fics I Would Take to a Desert Island"!!!
aire_blair: J & J: touch[identity profile] aire-blair.livejournal.com on March 6th, 2015 03:49 am (UTC)
One of my all time favorites is 'This Long Silence' (http://archiveofourown.org/works/2464127/chapters/5463422?view_adult=true), by dugindeep.

Summary:

Jensen serves as the young sheriff of Morgan Falls, a town in the middle of nowhere that never has much happen. Until the residents start to turn, becoming violent and attacking one another. While trying to manage the chaos, Jensen is concerned with tracking down his neighbor, Jared, who's been hauled out of town with others in the quarantine. As Jensen becomes more desperate, those around him are clueless to his obsession, and he begins to recall how he and Jared became so close. Their sleepy town will never be the same, nor will Jensen and Jared.

You know the sex is there, but she weaves it seamlessly into the story, and it only serves to describe the closeness they share, and Jensen's struggle to accept that he can have what is building between them.
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 6th, 2015 05:12 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I will follow up with this one. All sex scenes should be seamless in the story (what an excellent way to phrase it, why didn't I think of that?!).
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[identity profile] crucis01.livejournal.com on March 6th, 2015 07:40 pm (UTC)
http://archiveofourown.org/series/24097
The Gemini Chronicles might be what you are looking or. Both are exceptionally well written, in my opinion, great plots with the type of relationship you describe. There is a third being written when the author has finished Masters Degree.
[identity profile] onlythefireborn.livejournal.com on March 7th, 2015 09:55 pm (UTC)
I have read both of these and LOVED them - did not know that there was a third pending! Hoping the writer graduates this spring with full honors.
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[identity profile] z3s-keep-going.livejournal.com on March 17th, 2015 05:20 am (UTC)
I don't know if you are still looking, but one of my favorites:

This Illusion We've Become (http://archiveofourown.org/works/1975050/chapters/4274643)

Summary:

Even though he's been living with the prestigious Morgan family for years, Jared Padalecki has always been the outcast, save for the relationship he has with Diane Morgan, the eldest child and heir. When she's murdered brutally, Jared's forced to face up to the fact that he's on his own, while trying to solve the murder with his best friend Chad and his associate, Jensen Ackles, a medium who's able to see spirits. In the midst of that, he has to deal with being suspected of murder, being further ostracised by the Morgan family, his company being robbed, hunting down his birth parents and his tumultuous relationship with Jensen, as well the danger that continues to lie ahead. Meanwhile, Jensen’s forced to deal with the fact that he’s in love with Jared and is the only one who can communicate with Diane and help solve her murder.
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